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VolklSpartan Posted at 16/04/2007, 01:03
Quote by picard40
[#28977] written by: ufipod [apr 15 22:14 2007] ( preview )

please be careful, people have been getting letters...


what a load of nonsense. nobody gets emails or letters or anything. they have
no way of knowing. stop the scare mongering please.


first of all, this guys a dick and is talking out his ass. second, they sent a
snail mail letter to my school, who in turn sends me an email. if you don't know
what you are talking about, keep your mouth shut ass.
Sanjuro Posted at 16/04/2007, 01:09
hbo is notorious for using companies like safenet etc to catch p2p users
downloading their shows. many bt clients display the ip address of everyone you
connect to. it is then a simple matter of doing a whois lookup to find out the
owner of tha ip address range and they send a threatening letter to them. your
isp takes it from there. even if you have a dynamic address, your isp assigns it
to you and would have a record of who had that address at that particular time.
the best way to avoid this is to either use bt for legit purposes only or use a
program like peerguardian, which blocks connections to and from companies like
safenet based on lists of ip addresses. there is also a plugin for azureus, but
it is a real resource hog, it can double azureus' memory usage. you can find
peerguardian at sourceforge.
vadimugov Posted at 16/04/2007, 01:09
cool show
DigitalSignalX Posted at 16/04/2007, 01:33
*very* glad to have soprano eps again, that was a long ass break.

anyone using torrents on public trackers can get cease and desist emails if
their primary email is via their isp. i've gotten one before about a year ago
for a film off mininova. since then, i've been using peerguardian and a firewall
box, probably quadrupled my download/upload rates, and no letters.
dno23 Posted at 16/04/2007, 01:51
can anyone tell me the name of the song in the end credits please??

thanks
tonethestone Posted at 16/04/2007, 02:08
are the laws the same in the uk? i have never got a letter. i used to use
peerguardian but i now have vista so it doesnt work, anyone got a good
alternative (not protowall, tried and doesnt work).
vadimugov Posted at 16/04/2007, 03:30
Quote by tonethestone
are the laws the same in the uk? i have never got a letter.
i used to use
peerguardian but i now have vista so it doesnt work, anyone got a good
alternative (not protowall, tried and doesnt work).


they would have to be very similar to australian law since australia is a part
of the british commonwealth but this really has to do with your isp

no alternatives that i know of... sorry mate, let us know if you find something
MonkeyD Posted at 16/04/2007, 05:48
use peerguardian. problem solved.
stubz Posted at 16/04/2007, 06:32
well i see hbo is watching....this is the only way i can see it...so i will give
it a go but im gonna try and use a private tracker
jaj Posted at 16/04/2007, 07:19
during the last run of the soprano's and big love i was downloading every
episode. sure enough after the first couple of weeks i started getting
redirected to a page displaying a letter from hbo that was sent to my isp
every time i tried to get online. (it was very detailed with information
about copyright violation and the dmca. it also had the exact file name of
the files i had downloaded) i would have to agree stop downloading hbo
content and "digitally sign" the letter before they would restore my
connection. after about four or five of these letters my isp shut off my
connection entirely for ten days. it's very easy for them to track you ip
address, and it's real simple for them to find out the isp which owns that
ip. though, hbo doesn't know any of your personal information, they do know
who your isp is. so anyone who doesn't think hbo is tracking the ip addresses
of people downloading their shows is just naive.
heifer2 Posted at 16/04/2007, 08:03
Quote by jaj
during the last run of the soprano's and big love i was downloading
every
episode. sure enough after the first couple of weeks i started getting
redirected to a page displaying a letter from hbo that was sent to my isp
every time i tried to get online. (it was very detailed with information
about copyright violation and the dmca. it also had the exact file name of
the files i had downloaded) i would have to agree stop downloading hbo
content and "digitally sign" the letter before they would restore my
connection. after about four or five of these letters my isp shut off my
connection entirely for ten days. it's very easy for them to track you ip
address, and it's real simple for them to find out the isp which owns that
ip. though, hbo doesn't know any of your personal information, they do know
who your isp is. so anyone who doesn't think hbo is tracking the ip addresses
of people downloading their shows is just naive.



bullshit.

please let some moderator remove these messages that are obviously planted by
pranksters or mpaa/riaa scaremongers.

2k1s Posted at 16/04/2007, 08:55
shut up. there are real emails going out from people. and stop saying
scaremonger.

there is a wikipedia article about hbo and their use of trackers to send cease
and desist letters. i got a letter last summer off of mininova for downloading
entourage. it really does happen, although supposedly no one has actually been
sued by hbo, just scared.
Albedo Posted at 16/04/2007, 09:01
just a reminder to my canadian brethren - everything's still legal in canada
from what i can tell. i haven't ever received a letter, nor have i heard of
anyone getting letters. and if i do i'll chalk it up to scare mongering. but
for everyone else, i guess you're on your own!

Quote by vadimugov
they would have to be very similar to australian law since
australia is a part of the british commonwealth but this really has to do with
your isp

uh... commonwealth has nothing to do w/ it, each country makes up their own
laws. like canada.

anyways, when it comes to hbo shows, there is an alternative, though i fear the
mere mention of it is a bannable offence here. but rs... you can split a file
into four parts, and if you have an account can have them all dl'ed in half an
hour. and while i assume rs knows what your ip is as you're getting a file, i'm
pretty sure they don't log it & wouldn't care. so it would definitely be a
suitable alternative for these hbo programs that people may or may not be
getting in trouble over.
ufipod Posted at 16/04/2007, 10:40
i can't believe people don't understand how you can be tracked, or don't believe
you are getting letters. all these people are telling you they have gotten them,
i have gotten my internet shutoff personally. i'm not trying to scare everyone,
i'm trying to warn them.

i've said this before, even you people who don't believe in the letters or
getting tracked can figure this out: open your bittorrent client. open an eztv
torrent. go to your connected clients list. voila, there you have it. you are
done. there would be one more step if you were working for an anti-p2p company.
write those down, send them off to your hbo client.
ufipod Posted at 16/04/2007, 10:43
Quote by monkeyd
use peerguardian. problem solved.


it can help, but please don't tout it as a solve-all for p2p problems. it is
simply a blacklist, with no way of blocking everyone that is working against
p2p. and besides, people get nailed while using it. so for those interested in
the truth, yes it can help, but it is certainly no guarantee that it will stop
your internet from being shut down (usually temporarily) or getting a letter
from your isp.
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